Comments on: Real Life DRM Problems: Atlantis the Lost Empire DVD

By: Paul

Paul — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:19:02 +0000

That reminds me - I have a R4 copy of Jabberwocky that’s got a completely broken AC3 track - all the dialogue comes from the right speaker. I should really get around to re-encoding it so that it’s not painful to watch. I’m sure Columbia are very interested in fixing the problem…

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By: Net Crap (4/14) at Musings of a Chicagoan

Net Crap (4/14) at Musings of a Chicagoan — Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:21:52 +0000

[...] “Disney’s Atlantis the Lost Empire was one of a few discs at the time that were mastered with bad audio flags.” “Large corporations screw up and they don’t like to publicize it. Personal DIY can fix these screw ups. Part of this DIY process, defeating DVD’s DRM protection, was criminal. I don’t feel like what I did was theft. I just wanted to watch the movie [...]

By: Net Crap (4/14) at Musings of a Chicagoan

Net Crap (4/14) at Musings of a Chicagoan — Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:21:52 +0000

By: Living in the Whine Country » How DRM delayed one persons enjoying a movie… and how he dealt with it

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:33:06 +0000

[...] Posted in Technology, Movies, Legal, Interesting, Home Theatre at 8:32 pm by Patrick Havens Real Life DRM Problems: Atlantis the Lost Empire DVD Most of the time I just want to casually watch a movie. I don’t need to own every DVD I have a passing interest in. I even have trouble watching movies I really love more than once. Back in 2001, I was browsing the Michigan Ave Borders in Chicago and found the Atlantis the Lost Empire Illustrated Script. I discovered after a few pages that one of my favorite comic book artists, Mike Mignola, designed all the characters and mecha. Later, in Hollywood Video I rented the non-special edition DVD. When I watched the disc through my home theater set up, I was disappointed that its Dolby Digital soundtrack was broken. [...]

By: geek

geek — Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:43:00 +0000

I’m just curious if the problem is still relevant. Jeez, Fuzzy, quit throwing pennies at me.

By: Fuzzy

Fuzzy — Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:21:31 +0000

> Better yet why doesn’t everybody go rent it and see if you get the same result.

What, are you a shill for this crappy movie?

By: geek

geek — Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:13:00 +0000

I’ve moved houses twice since I made the DVD-R, so it’s either lost or in some dusty box. Throwing it away is only the ethical thing to do. The right to back up a copy of software you own is only expressly given in some old PC and Mac software EULAs. The problem is violating CSS in the first place to extract the movie and fix it. The content creator’s argument is valid, you shouldn’t steal their stuff. How are they to know if after the DVD is cracked whether you’ll watch it once, put up a torrent on the intertron, or go sell bootlegs at a flea market? It’s the same violation you must make to load a DVD onto any hard disk based movie jukebox, from an HTPC to an iPod to a PSP. Doesn’t Sony distribute software to RIP movies to PSP video? The only way the content providers listen is through their bottom line. If your tired of buying your favorite movies on new, more convenient formats, then stop buying them. It worked with UMD.

My point of the post is sometimes you have to fix things yourself. Dolby admitted to a software bug that led to the problem, that was quickly fixed, but some titles got pressed. To this day I have to assume the mentioned DVDs were not recalled, remastered and redistributed fixed. Onkyo promised an update but one never came for my receiver.

I might go rent Atlantis again just to see if I still have the same problem 5 years later. Better yet why doesn’t everybody go rent it and see if you get the same result. This problem was not confined to just Onkyo receivers of that vintage, Denon was affected too.

By: Fuzzy

Fuzzy — Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:30:05 +0000

Of course, to be perfectly legal and non-thefty you threw away the disc you made when you returned the DVD to Hollywood Video, right? Riiiiiight? Wink, nod. Etc.

By: Whipping boy

Whipping boy — Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:58:43 +0000

I hope you get arrested!

And the EFF and ACLU rally behind your cause, it goes all the way to the Suprreme Court, and new rules of fair use are established.

(Fat chance with our corporate-lackey legislators and jurists).